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-<fs smaller>**COMICAL CRITICISM** Alec Peters' legal target, Sandy Greenberg, himself regularly takes aim at Peters, as demonstrated by this meme Greenberg posted on Facebook. </fs> <fs x-small>//Image/We ❤️ Axanar Memes Facebook group//</fs>+<fs smaller>**COMICAL CRITICISM** Alec Peters' possible next legal target, Sandy Greenberg, himself regularly takes aim at Peters, as demonstrated by this meme Greenberg posted on Facebook. </fs> <fs x-small>//Image/We ❤️ Axanar Memes Facebook group//</fs>
  
-<fs x-small>APRIL 24, 2019<wrap indent> | </wrap><wrap indent> 5 MIN READ</wrap></fs>+<fs x-small>APRIL 25, 2019<wrap indent> | </wrap><wrap indent> 6 MIN READ</wrap></fs>
  
-====== Peters Takes Aim at More Legal Targets ======+====== Peters Prepares to Wage Legal War on More Critics ======
  
-**//Axanar producer prepared to spend 'tens of thousands' pursuing critics// **+**//Axanar producer prepared to spend 'tens of thousands' to shut down AxaMonitor group// **
  
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-Is [[Alec Peters]]' lawsuit against former //[[Axanar]]// director [[burnett_resigns|Robert Meyer Burnett]] only the first of many? An email from Peters indicates his desire to strike back at his most ardent critics.+After he's finished suing former colleague [[burnett_responds|Robert Meyer Burnett]], Axanar producer [[Alec Peters]] is prepared to wage litigious war, threatening he's "coming after" his most ardent critics, and speculating on how many lawsuits it will take to shut down the AxaMonitor Facebook group.
  
-{{page>see also}}{{page>subscribe}}+Curiously, Peters doesn't appear to be interested in going after AxaMonitor itself. 
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 +<fs smaller>**//See also: [[bawden_peters|Suing Burnett Creates Battle Lines Between Axanar Loyalists]]//**</fs> 
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 ===== Taking Legal Action ===== ===== Taking Legal Action =====
  
-In the February 24 email to AxaMonitor editor Carlos Pedraza, Peters expresses his frustration with two vocal Facebook critics, Shawn O'Halloran and Sandy Greenberg.+In a February 24 email to AxaMonitor editor Carlos Pedraza, Peters expresses his special frustration with two vocal Facebook critics, Shawn O'Halloran and Sandy Greenberg.
  
 O'Halloran, who often takes a [[https://www.facebook.com/groups/499671956898195/permalink/1024103764455009/|comical approach]] to criticizing Peters, isn't surprised, given Peters first threatened to sue him three years ago. Once an Axanar supporter, Greenberg was booted from the film's Facebook group for asking the wrong questions. His criticism of Peters has since been unrelenting. O'Halloran, who often takes a [[https://www.facebook.com/groups/499671956898195/permalink/1024103764455009/|comical approach]] to criticizing Peters, isn't surprised, given Peters first threatened to sue him three years ago. Once an Axanar supporter, Greenberg was booted from the film's Facebook group for asking the wrong questions. His criticism of Peters has since been unrelenting.
  
-**Embarrassing** Peters accuses the two — and unnamed others — of “Go[ing] after me personally, posting fraudulent and Photoshopped bullshit to embarrass me, then I am going to take action.”+**Embarrassing** Peters accuses the two — and unnamed others — of “go[ing] after me personally, posting fraudulent and Photoshopped bullshit to embarrass me, then I am going to take action.”((Email from Alec Peters to Carlos Pedraza, 2/24/19.)) 
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 +<WRAP>//**__« <fs smaller>I am coming after those who perpetrate defamation and cyberstalking.  And the discovery will open up a whole can of worms you guys can’t handle.  It will be interesting to see how many lawsuits it will take before you shut down your hate group.</fs> »__ **//  <wrap indent>//— Axanar producer Alec Peters//</wrap> 
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 ==== Current Suits ==== ==== Current Suits ====
  
-Peters also brags about his prospects in the two lawsuits he's currently pursuing [[:burnett_responds|against Burnett]] and [[:hero_prop_suit|Hero Prop]] owner Tiana Armstrong: "I have started two lawsuits this year against people who owe me money. … **I will win** both cases."+Peters also brags about his prospects in the two lawsuits he's currently pursuing [[:burnett_responds|against Burnett]] and [[:hero_prop_suit|Hero Prop]] owner Tiana Armstrong: "I have started two lawsuits this year against people who owe me money. … **I will win** both cases."((Email from Alec Peters to Carlos Pedraza, 2/24/19.))
  
-Peters' lawsuit against Burnett demonstrates he's not bluffing about suing more people, he says, adding, "the Rob lawsuit should be a wake up call. … Being nice hasn't worked."+Peters' lawsuit against Burnett demonstrates he's not bluffing about suing more people, he says, adding, "the Rob lawsuit should be a wake up call. … Being nice hasn't worked."((Email from Alec Peters to Carlos Pedraza, 2/24/19.))
  
 [{{::peters_legal_threats-1-2.jpg|**THREATS** Alec Peters says he's willing to spend a lot of money to pursue those he believes are defaming him. <fs smaller>//Image/Axanar Productions//</fs>}}] [{{::peters_legal_threats-1-2.jpg|**THREATS** Alec Peters says he's willing to spend a lot of money to pursue those he believes are defaming him. <fs smaller>//Image/Axanar Productions//</fs>}}]
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 +<WRAP>//**__<wrap em><fs smaller>Read Peters' Threat</fs></wrap>__**//</WRAP>
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 +<fs smaller>Read the full February 24 email from Alec Peters to AxaMonitor editor Carlos Pedraza.</fs> <fs x-small>//Click image to view full-size.//</fs>
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 ===== The Real Target ===== ===== The Real Target =====
  
-It appears Peters most wants to shut down the constant criticism leveled at him in the [[face>groups/axamonitor/|AxaMonitor Facebook group]], saying, "I am happy to spend tens of thousands of dollars on lawyers."+It appears Peters most wants to shut down the constant criticism leveled at him in the [[face>groups/axamonitor/|AxaMonitor Facebook group]], saying, "I am happy to spend tens of thousands of dollars on lawyers."((Email from Alec Peters to Carlos Pedraza, 2/24/19.))
  
 ===== Outreach to AxaMonitor ===== ===== Outreach to AxaMonitor =====
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 **Not on the list**: Curiously, AxaMonitor itself (and its editor, Pedraza) is exempt from Peters' legal ire. Peters wrote Pedraza with the email marked "personal and confidential." **Not on the list**: Curiously, AxaMonitor itself (and its editor, Pedraza) is exempt from Peters' legal ire. Peters wrote Pedraza with the email marked "personal and confidential."
  
-  * **No such thing**: In his email reply Pedraza reminded Peters the two have no pre-existing agreement as to confidentiality regarding any communication with me. Because Peters knows Pedraza is a reporter whatever he reveals isn't privileged.+**No such thing**: In his email reply Pedraza reminded Peters the two have no pre-existing agreement as to confidentiality regarding any communication between them; because Peters knows Pedraza is a reporter whatever he reveals has no reasonable expectation of confidentiality.
  
-Peters quote re: not suing Carlos+Peters did complain about Pedraza's coverage of him and Axanar in AxaMonitor, but added: 
 + 
 +> You want to attack me, stalk me, lie about me, and post your bullshit for years, <wrap hi>I probably won’t sue you</wrap>.((Email from Alec Peters to Carlos Pedraza, 2/24/19.)) 
 + 
 +==== Longer List? ==== 
 + 
 +Though his email specified only O'Halloran and Greenberg, Peters indicated more people were in his sights, and that [[discovery]] from any lawsuits should be something his critics should fear. But first things first: 
 + 
 +> After I finish with Rob I am coming after those who perpetrate defamation and cyberstalking.  And the discovery will open up a whole can of worms you guys can’t handle.  It will be interesting to see how many lawsuits it will take before you shut down your hate group. \\ \\ So you can either tell your hate group to back off, or reap the whirlwind.((Email from Alec Peters to Carlos Pedraza, 2/24/19.))
  
 ==== Offer to Talk ==== ==== Offer to Talk ====
  
-Pedraza offered to talk with Peters, and, "before going down a litigious road," suggesting Peters reach out to O'Halloran and Greenberg, even to seek third-party mediation, in exchange for not quoting his email. Peters never took Pedraza up on the offer.+Pedraza offered to talk with Peters, and, "before going down a litigious road," suggesting Peters reach out to O'Halloran and Greenberg, even to seek third-party mediation, in exchange for not quoting his email.((Email from Carlos Pedraza to Alec Peters, 2/24/19.)) Peters never took Pedraza up on the offer.
  
-===== Dim View of Peters' Threat =====+[{{ ::sandy_greenberg.jpg?100|**Sandy Greenberg** <fs x-small>//Image/Facebook//</fs>}}] 
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 +===== Dim Views of Peters' Threat =====
  
 **Greenberg reacts**: In a statement to AxaMonitor, Greenberg said he doesn't find Peters' bravado impressive, contending Peters: **Greenberg reacts**: In a statement to AxaMonitor, Greenberg said he doesn't find Peters' bravado impressive, contending Peters:
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   * **Can't prove defamation**: "To prove defamation he’d need to show that something I said was untrue [and] prove I was willfully incorrect."   * **Can't prove defamation**: "To prove defamation he’d need to show that something I said was untrue [and] prove I was willfully incorrect."
   * **Must sue in England**: Greenberg says Peters would have to sue him in the United Kingdom, where he resides.   * **Must sue in England**: Greenberg says Peters would have to sue him in the United Kingdom, where he resides.
-  * **Make //Axanar//** : "If he wants me to go away, instead of spending tens of thousands on litigation he should just make the damn film.  In short, I’m not worried."+  * **Make //Axanar//** : "If he wants me to go away, instead of spending tens of thousands on litigation he should just make the damn film.  In short, I’m not worried."((Sandy Greenberg via Facebook Messenger to Carlos Pedraza, 4/23/19.))
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 +--> Read Sandy Greenberg's Full Statement #
 +<wrap lo>To start with let’s be clear, he’s never been “nice”.  I’ll break this down as there’s so much to unpick.  First off, his filing suit against Burnett has been a train crash of ineptness. 
 +\\ \\
 +Second, to prove defamation he’d need to show that something I said was untrue.  I have always tried to keep comments factual. He says discovery will open a can of worms and he is correct. He’d have to prove I was wilfully incorrect and to do so he’d need to open up his documents including his financials. 
 +\\ \\ 
 +On top of all that he’d need to hire a UK solicitor and file suit against me in the UK.  Third, he’s filed a defamation suit against Jason DeBord in the past and lost.  
 +\\ \\
 +Finally, if he wants me to go away, instead of spending tens of thousands on litigation he should just make the damn film.  In short, I’m not worried.</wrap>
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 +[{{ ::shawn_o_halloran-3.jpg?100|**Shawn O'Halloran** <fs x-small>//Image/Facebook//</fs>}}]
  
 **O'Halloran reacts**: For his part, O'Halloran asserts Peters "continues to overestimate his own prowess and underestimate those who he who he feels are his 'enemies.'" From O'Halloran's statement: **O'Halloran reacts**: For his part, O'Halloran asserts Peters "continues to overestimate his own prowess and underestimate those who he who he feels are his 'enemies.'" From O'Halloran's statement:
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   * **Strong-arming**: "Peters would seem to be, once again, attempting to abuse the legal system in order to [[:bawden_peters#bullying_burnett|strong-arm]] the defendant into acquiescing to his demands."   * **Strong-arming**: "Peters would seem to be, once again, attempting to abuse the legal system in order to [[:bawden_peters#bullying_burnett|strong-arm]] the defendant into acquiescing to his demands."
   * **Failed before**: Both O'Halloran and Greenberg point to the last time he sued someone for defamation. The case was [[:hero_prop_suit#previous_defamation_suit|thrown out]] and the court awarded damages to the defendant, Jason DeBord — $26,000 Peters has never paid.   * **Failed before**: Both O'Halloran and Greenberg point to the last time he sued someone for defamation. The case was [[:hero_prop_suit#previous_defamation_suit|thrown out]] and the court awarded damages to the defendant, Jason DeBord — $26,000 Peters has never paid.
-  * **‘Rain hellfire’**: O'Halloran warns legal action by Peters would be a mistake, saying, "I will consider that a direct threat to my wife and children and I will rain hellfire on him, legally, in such a manner that he could never possibly imagine.+  * **‘Rain hellfire’**: O'Halloran warns legal action by Peters would be a mistake, saying, "I will consider that a direct threat to my wife and children and I will rain hellfire on him, legally, in such a manner that he could never possibly imagine.((Shawn O'Halloran via Facebook Messenger to Carlos Pedraza, 4/24/19.))
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 +--> Read Shawn O'Halloran's Full Statement #
 +<wrap lo>As Alec Peters has done for the better part of — well — what would seem to be his entire life, he continues to overestimate his own prowess and underestimate those who he who he feels are his “enemies.” 
 +\\ \\
 +It should be noted that the impetus for my personal dedication to exposing the truth about Peters is the fact that he threatened to sue me three years ago and has had his proxy, Jonathan Lane, do so publicly on his behalf on his blog and on Facebook on multiple occasions. 
 +\\ \\
 +Mike Bawden noted in his very direct email to Peters that he only pursued Robert Meyer Burnett because he was sure that he didn’t have the resources to defend himself and would capitulate to his demands and he didn’t know what resources folks like myself, Carlos Pedraza or Michael Hinman had at our disposal. 
 +\\ \\
 +Considering how spectacularly this lawsuit has blown up in his face vis a vis Burnett, does he really think that it’s a good idea to take that chance with any of us? Does he really think that the adults in the room with families don’t prepare for all contingencies?
 +\\ \\
 +If this current litigation that Peters is involved in against Burnett is any indication of the level of incompetence and complete lack of legal acumen that I can expect... let’s just put it this way: I’m not exactly quaking in my boots over here. 
 +\\ \\
 +That said, it’s impossible to take threats from Peters like this seriously. Considering the current stalled nature of the lawsuit against Burnett (a lawsuit that seemingly only exists because I taunted Peters on Facebook because he kept talking about suing Burnett in public without ever actually doing it), the incompetent pleadings and complete lack of knowledge of civil procedure on Peters’ behalf, as per the usual, Peters would seem to be, attempting to abuse the legal system in order to strong-arm the defendant into acquiescing to his demands. 
 +\\ \\
 +He apparently thinks this is an effective course of action to silence dissent, as well, hence his threats against myself and others. 
 +\\ \\
 +I would like to remind Peters that the last time he attempted to stifle dissent through the courts, it didn’t work out so well for him.  The case was dismissed for violating anti-SLAPP statutes and he was ordered to pay Jason DeBord of The Original Prop Blog over $27,000 to cover his legal fees. 
 +\\ \\
 +But, of course, Peters knows what the consequences for SLAPP litigation are which is why the next time he wanted to scare someone into silence, he threatened to lie about a critic and falsely identify him publicly as a pedophile. 
 +\\ \\
 +Peters is weak, impotent and, above all, a coward, which is why that email in question was sent to you and not to myself or Sandy. 
 +\\ \\
 +But he’s also petulant and impulsive and he doesn’t learn from his mistakes. 
 +\\ \\
 +So, while I’m not worried whatsoever about a lawsuit from Peters, if, on the off-chance he does have a temper-tantrum and acts on it by making the biggest mistake of his life by filing suit against me, I will consider that a direct threat to my wife and children and I will rain hellfire on him, legally, in such a manner that he could never possibly imagine.</wrap>
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 +[{{ ::mike_bawden.jpg?100|**Mike Bawden** <fs x-small>//Image/Facebook//</fs>}}]
 ==== Is Peters Bluffing? ==== ==== Is Peters Bluffing? ====
  
-Despite his bluster, Peters' former PR director and close advisor, Mike Bawden claims Peters chose to pursue the Burnett suit because he represented the lowest hanging fruit, legally.+Despite his bluster Peters' former PR director and close advisor, Mike Bawden, claims Peters chose to pursue the Burnett suit because his former colleague represented the lowest hanging fruit, legally.
  
 === Opportunistic Bully === === Opportunistic Bully ===
  
-In an email to Peters just two days after Peters wrote me, Bawden called the Axanar producer an "[[:bawden_peters#opportunistic_bully|opportunistic bully]]" for going after Burnett instead of Peters' critics:+In an email to Peters just two days after Peters wrote AxaMonitor, Bawden called the Axanar producer an "[[:bawden_peters#opportunistic_bully|opportunistic bully]]" for going after Burnett instead of Peters' critics:
  
-> Compared to what you’ve **threatened and refused to do** with [former tech chief] Terry McIntosh, [AxaMonitor editor] Carlos Pedraza, [Alpha Waves Radio host] Michael Hinman, [ardent Facebook critic] Sean O’Halloran, [former //Axanar// director] Christan Gossett and an unending list of people who have said bad things about you … [it] looks like you’ve decided to file suit against the one guy [Burnett] you were sure didn’t have the financial resources to fight you in court.+> Compared to what you’ve **threatened and refused to do** with [former tech chief] Terry McIntosh, [AxaMonitor editor] Carlos Pedraza, [Alpha Waves Radio host] Michael Hinman, [ardent Facebook critic] Sean O’Halloran, [former //Axanar// director] Christan Gossett and an unending list of people who have said bad things about you … [it] looks like you’ve decided to file suit against the one guy [Burnett] you were sure didn’t have the financial resources to fight you in court.((Email from Mike Bawden to Alec Peters, 2/26/19.)) {{:axamonitor-ico.gif?nolink|}} 
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