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 > **Mission creep** is the expansion of a project or mission beyond its original goals, often after initial successes. Mission creep is usually considered undesirable due to the <wrap hi>dangerous path of each success breeding more ambitious attempts</wrap>, only stopping when a final, often catastrophic, failure occurs.(([[wp>Mission_creep|Mission creep, Wikipedia]], retrieved 9/28/16.)) > **Mission creep** is the expansion of a project or mission beyond its original goals, often after initial successes. Mission creep is usually considered undesirable due to the <wrap hi>dangerous path of each success breeding more ambitious attempts</wrap>, only stopping when a final, often catastrophic, failure occurs.(([[wp>Mission_creep|Mission creep, Wikipedia]], retrieved 9/28/16.))
  
-[{{ :gossett-sm.jpg?200|**[[yout>H-s-CDkR6co|IN THIS INTERVIEW]]**, //Prelude// director **Christian Gossett** disputes Alec Peters' account that Gossett wanted to build a studio from scratch instead of renting.}}]+[{{ :gossett-sm.jpg?150|**[[yout>H-s-CDkR6co|IN THIS INTERVIEW]]**, //Prelude// director **Christian Gossett** disputes Alec Peters' account that Gossett wanted to build a studio from scratch instead of renting.}}]
  
 <wrap em>MOSTLY FALSE</wrap> **Building a Studio**. Peters lays the decision to build out a studio completely at the feet of //Prelude// director Gossett, who was set to direct //Axanar// but resigned in May 2015 over his concerns about Peters' management of the budget and personnel. Gossett himself has disputed the narrative that it was his decision to build a studio. His concern about the sets in rural upstate New York was that the region didn't offer the necessary infrastructure to support the full-fledged production anticipated for //Axanar//. \\ \\ At the time, the desire for Axanar's own studio — viewed as a potential income source — was Peters' alone, said Gossett, who pleaded with Peters to temporarily rent studio space in Los Angeles for the few months required to produce //Axanar//, instead of committing to the three-year, quarter-million dollar lease to build Peters' commercial venture, [[Industry Studios]]. The time and money required to convert a warehouse into a soundstage [[annual_report#first_commercial_hint|blew past Peters' budget]] and delayed shooting //Axanar// by almost two years.(({{:axanar-annual-report-v2.pdf|Axanar Annual Report 2015, Revised}}, p. 8, 12/15/15.)) <wrap em>MOSTLY FALSE</wrap> **Building a Studio**. Peters lays the decision to build out a studio completely at the feet of //Prelude// director Gossett, who was set to direct //Axanar// but resigned in May 2015 over his concerns about Peters' management of the budget and personnel. Gossett himself has disputed the narrative that it was his decision to build a studio. His concern about the sets in rural upstate New York was that the region didn't offer the necessary infrastructure to support the full-fledged production anticipated for //Axanar//. \\ \\ At the time, the desire for Axanar's own studio — viewed as a potential income source — was Peters' alone, said Gossett, who pleaded with Peters to temporarily rent studio space in Los Angeles for the few months required to produce //Axanar//, instead of committing to the three-year, quarter-million dollar lease to build Peters' commercial venture, [[Industry Studios]]. The time and money required to convert a warehouse into a soundstage [[annual_report#first_commercial_hint|blew past Peters' budget]] and delayed shooting //Axanar// by almost two years.(({{:axanar-annual-report-v2.pdf|Axanar Annual Report 2015, Revised}}, p. 8, 12/15/15.))
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 Axanar critics often say, "You stepped over the line?" Peters said. "What was the line? No one knows what the line is. They [CBS] wouldn't tell us." Axanar critics often say, "You stepped over the line?" Peters said. "What was the line? No one knows what the line is. They [CBS] wouldn't tell us."
  
-Peters said he couldn't imagine why CBS chose to sue Axanar over other fan films. "The diff between what Axanar raised [$1.2 million] and what [//Star Trek://] //Renegades// raised, $800,000, is minor. This is not the deciding factor. Yes, we raised more than everyone else but we didn't do anything that anyone else hasn't done before. We just did it differently, with a little more panache, if you will."+Peters said he couldn't imagine why CBS chose to sue Axanar over other fan films. "The difference between what Axanar raised [$1.2 million] and what [//Star Trek://] //Renegades// raised, $800,000, is minor. This is not the deciding factor. Yes, we raised more than everyone else but we didn't do anything that anyone else hasn't done before. We just did it differently, with a little more panache, if you will."
  
 Peters said Spock actor Leonard Nimoy's son, Adam, told him //Prelude// was the first fan film that he loved. "I think there's a reason for that, and we've carried forward that dedication to a level of quality that I will ... never apologize for." Peters said Spock actor Leonard Nimoy's son, Adam, told him //Prelude// was the first fan film that he loved. "I think there's a reason for that, and we've carried forward that dedication to a level of quality that I will ... never apologize for."
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 <wrap em>TRUE</wrap> **Star Trek Continues**.  Burnett is correct. //Star Trek Continues// planned to end its run with four final episodes, all of which were to be produced outside CBS' fan film guidelines. However, CBS [[guidelines-podcast#questions and answers|did not promise]] to sue any production that failed to meet any of the guidelines. How Axanar may use //Continues// in its defense against copyright infringement had yet to be seen. <wrap em>TRUE</wrap> **Star Trek Continues**.  Burnett is correct. //Star Trek Continues// planned to end its run with four final episodes, all of which were to be produced outside CBS' fan film guidelines. However, CBS [[guidelines-podcast#questions and answers|did not promise]] to sue any production that failed to meet any of the guidelines. How Axanar may use //Continues// in its defense against copyright infringement had yet to be seen.
  
-<wrap em>FALSE</wrap> **Just Like Other Fan Films**. As a matter of scale, Peters attempted to portray //Axanar//'s crowdfunding as essentially the same as //Star Trek: Renegades// (which has since [[guidelines_aftermath#video productions|stripped Star Trek elements]] from its production). In fact, however, the $1.2 million figure Peters quotes ignores the fact up until the lawsuit it was [[crowdfunding_platforms#progress_to_axanar|still raising money]] to support //Axanar//'s ultimate budget of nearly $2 million, more than twice //Renegades//'. The commercial aspects of Axanar's self-avowed professional operation — and their expansive scale — are what CBS and Paramount said distinguished the production from other fan films. Peters' characterization is an attempt to place Axanar under the same umbrella of perceived safety as other fan productions.+<wrap em>FALSE</wrap> **Just Like Other Fan Films**. As a matter of scale, Peters attempted to portray //Axanar//'s crowdfunding as essentially the same as //Star Trek: Renegades// (which has since [[guidelines_aftermath#video productions|stripped Star Trek elements]] from its production). In fact, however, the $1.2 million figure Peters quotes ignores the fact up until the lawsuit it was [[crowdfunding_platforms#progress_to_axanar|still raising money]] to support //Axanar//'s ultimate budget of nearly $2 million, more than twice //Renegades//'. The commercial aspects of Axanar's self-avowed professional operation — and their expansive scale — are what CBS and Paramount said distinguished the production from other fan films. Peters' characterization is an attempt to place Axanar under the same umbrella of perceived safety as true fan productions.
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 > First of all, Team Axanar are good friends with Adam Nimoy.  <wrap hi>We helped Adam with his 2015 Kickstarter</wrap> for his documentary “For The Love of Spock”, which is a truly wonderful movie I hope you will all go see.(([[http://www.axanarproductions.com/captains-log-sep-18th-2016/|"Captain’s Log – Sep. 18th, 2016," Alec Peters]], 9/18/16.)) > First of all, Team Axanar are good friends with Adam Nimoy.  <wrap hi>We helped Adam with his 2015 Kickstarter</wrap> for his documentary “For The Love of Spock”, which is a truly wonderful movie I hope you will all go see.(([[http://www.axanarproductions.com/captains-log-sep-18th-2016/|"Captain’s Log – Sep. 18th, 2016," Alec Peters]], 9/18/16.))
  
-<wrap em>PARTLY TRUE</wrap> It is true that Nimoy's Kickstarter used the beta version of Ares Digital, which has since been scrapped after it [[ares_digital_update|utterly failed]] to handle shipping of Axanar's own perks to its donors. Peters gives the arrangement a cursory mention in the podcast, but none at all in his published blog. This [[https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/adamnimoy/for-the-love-of-spock-a-documentary-film/posts/1633823|public apology]] on July 19, 2016, from Nimoy to his Kickstarter backers may be why.+<wrap em>PARTLY TRUE</wrap> **Ares Digital**. It is true that Nimoy's Kickstarter used the beta version of Ares Digital, which has since been scrapped after it [[ares_digital_update|utterly failed]] to handle shipping of Axanar's own perks to its donors. Peters gives the arrangement a cursory mention in the podcast, but none at all in his published blog. This [[https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/adamnimoy/for-the-love-of-spock-a-documentary-film/posts/1633823|public apology]] on July 19, 2016, from Nimoy to his Kickstarter backers may be why.
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 <wrap em>MOSTLY FALSE</wrap> **Discovery vs. Axanar**. Ever since Fuller announced the setting of the new Star Trek series, Axanar supporters have peddled the narrative that the overlapping time period between the two had to mean Fuller lifted story ideas from Axanar. Evidence fails to bear this out ("[[jeremy-varner|Discovery-Axanar Speculation Fuels Spurious Debate]]"). <wrap em>MOSTLY FALSE</wrap> **Discovery vs. Axanar**. Ever since Fuller announced the setting of the new Star Trek series, Axanar supporters have peddled the narrative that the overlapping time period between the two had to mean Fuller lifted story ideas from Axanar. Evidence fails to bear this out ("[[jeremy-varner|Discovery-Axanar Speculation Fuels Spurious Debate]]").
  
-<wrap em>DUBIOUS</wrap> **YEAR 2255** Peters talks around his "interesting point" that //Prelude to Axanar// is set in the same year as //Star Trek: Discovery//, leaving it to others to make assumptions about a fact-free connection between //Axanar// and //Discovery//. Realize what "the same year as //Prelude//" actually means — the year in which a fictional documentary of a non-canon fictional event 10 years earlier in a fictional timeline was fictionally broadcast in a fictional universe.+<wrap em>DUBIOUS</wrap> **Year 2255**. Peters talks around his "interesting point" that //Prelude to Axanar// is set in the same year as //Star Trek: Discovery//, leaving it to others to make assumptions about a fact-free connection between //Axanar// and //Discovery//. Realize what "the same year as //Prelude//" actually means — the year in which a fictional documentary of a non-canon fictional event 10 years earlier in a fictional timeline was fictionally broadcast in a fictional universe.
  
 <wrap em>DUBIOUS</wrap> **Fuller, Axanar Fan?** Peters' claim Fuller is a "big fan of Axanar" seems to be at odds with the //Discovery// producer's recent Q&A with Den of Geek: <wrap em>DUBIOUS</wrap> **Fuller, Axanar Fan?** Peters' claim Fuller is a "big fan of Axanar" seems to be at odds with the //Discovery// producer's recent Q&A with Den of Geek:
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 Though he was a big fan of Fuller's work on the TV series, //Hannibal//, Burnett worried //Discovery//'s writers would be hampered by Star Trek continuity in the new show's pre-Original Series setting. Peters agreed: "It's a mistake to go back in time." Though he was a big fan of Fuller's work on the TV series, //Hannibal//, Burnett worried //Discovery//'s writers would be hampered by Star Trek continuity in the new show's pre-Original Series setting. Peters agreed: "It's a mistake to go back in time."
  
-All three declared they would not subscribe to the U.S. network that will carry //Star Trek: Discovery//, CBS All Access, preferring to wait for a later Blu-ray release, and complaining of the $5.99 monthly cost (with commercials) or $9.99 (commercial-free). {{:axamonitor-ico.gif?nolink|}}+All three declared they would not subscribe to the U.S. network that will carry //Star Trek: Discovery//, CBS All Access, preferring to wait for a later Blu-ray release, and complaining of the $5.99 monthly cost (with commercials) or $9.99 (commercial-free).
  
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-<wrap em>DUBIOUS</wrap> **All Access Cost**. Peters, Burnett and Hunt objected to the subscription cost of CBS All Access, particularly the commercial-free option, as if this approach were unheard of. In fact, it's exactly the same arrangement (though less expensive) that Hulu offers its subscribers ($7.99 a month with commercials, $11.99 without commercials).+<wrap em>DUBIOUS</wrap> **All Access Cost**. Peters, Burnett and Hunt objected to the subscription cost of CBS All Access, particularly the commercial-free option, as if this approach were unheard of. In fact, it's exactly the same arrangement (though less expensive) that Hulu offers its subscribers ($7.99 a month with commercials, $11.99 without commercials). {{:axamonitor-ico.gif?nolink|}}
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