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gofundme [2016/11/03 17:25] – [Crowd Fund for Axanar Expenses Abruptly Ended] updates Carlos Pedrazagofundme [Unknown date] (current) – external edit (Unknown date) 127.0.0.1
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 ====== Crowd Fund for Axanar Expenses Abruptly Ended ====== ====== Crowd Fund for Axanar Expenses Abruptly Ended ======
  
-**//Fan Film Factor Blogger Admits Axanar is Out of Money, Sought $45,000//**+**//Peters Cancels Campaign After Blogger Admits Axanar is Out of Money, Sought $45,000//**
  
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-A GoFundMe campaign aiming to raise $45,000 to pay three months' worth of rent, utilities and salaries at Axanar's studio abruptly on November 3, 2016, just a few days after launch and following numerous complaints in its comments section and reports to GoFundMe itself.+A GoFundMe campaign aiming to raise $45,000 to pay three months' worth of rent, utilities and salaries at Axanar's studio abruptly ended on November 3, 2016, just a few days after launch and following numerous complaints in its comments section and reports to GoFundMe itself.
  
-Titled "We Stand With Axanar," the project was launched October 29 by glogger Jonathan Lane, whose pitch confirmed producer [[Alec Peters]]' statement in May that the project was [[axanar_finances|broke]]:+===== Axanar's Broke? ===== 
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 +Titled "We Stand With Axanar," the project was launched October 29 by blogger Jonathan Lane, whose pitch confirmed producer [[Alec Peters]]' statements in May and again in November that the project was [[axanar_finances|broke]]: 
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 +[{{ ::rent-paid.jpg?nolink&350|**JUSTIFIED** Alec Peters told Kickstarter contributors he personally paid the rent on Axanar's donor-built studio, so he's using the empty space to play Warhammer 40K.}}]
  
 > Already, Alec has put more than $150,000 of his own money into "keeping the lights on," but he is nearly out of money now. I wasn't supposed to tell you that. (([[https://www.gofundme.com/helpaxanar|We Stand With Axanar, GoFundMe]], retrieved 11/3/16.)) > Already, Alec has put more than $150,000 of his own money into "keeping the lights on," but he is nearly out of money now. I wasn't supposed to tell you that. (([[https://www.gofundme.com/helpaxanar|We Stand With Axanar, GoFundMe]], retrieved 11/3/16.))
  
-It wasn't clear whether Lane removed the project voluntarily or if GoFundMe responded to numerous reports from readers that the campaign wasn't appropriate given Axanar's pending lawsuit.+On Kickstarter more than a week later, Peters revealed he had personally paid for months of the rent of Industry Studios, his commercial soundstage paid for with donor dollars, entitling him to use the space as he saw fit, including setting up a [[wp>Warhammer_40,000|Warhammer 40,000]] gaming venue.(([[https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/194429923/star-trek-axanar/comments?cursor=14935107#comment-14935106|Alec Peters post, Star Trek Axanar Kickstarter project comment section]], 11/9/16.)) 
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 +Lane posted in a comment on his blog that he took down the page at Peters' urging:  
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 +**Inside the Studio** 
 +{{gallery> galleries:warhammer-venue?lightbox&reverse&crop&150x150&nocache}}<wrap lo>**WARHAMMER** Alec Peters hosted a Warhammer 40K tournament in the unused Industry Studios on October 15, 2016.</wrap> 
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 +> Alec asked me to take down the GoFundMe site. It is now down. Not wanting him to be involved with it in any way until it was officially launched, I didn’t tell him I’d put it up online in the first place. When he found out about it, I got a call very quickly.((Jonathan Lane, comment, [[http://fanfilmfactor.com/2016/10/29/alec-peters-attorney-fires-back-hard-at-cbsparamount-legal-team-in-axanar-lawsuit/#comment-1676|"Alec Peters' Attorney Fires Back Hard at CBS/Paramount Legal Team in Axanar Lawsuit"]], 11/3/16.)) 
 ===== Independent Fundraising Effort ===== ===== Independent Fundraising Effort =====
  
 As a formally independent crowdfund, controlled by Lane, this new money might very well have been beyond the reach of any damages or monetary settlement stemming from the [[copyright infringement]] lawsuit Peters faces from [[CBS]] and [[Paramount Pictures]]. As a formally independent crowdfund, controlled by Lane, this new money might very well have been beyond the reach of any damages or monetary settlement stemming from the [[copyright infringement]] lawsuit Peters faces from [[CBS]] and [[Paramount Pictures]].
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-[{{ :jonathan-lane.jpg?nolink&300|**GOFUNDME** Fan Film Factor blogger **Jonathan Lane** was looking for $45,000 via GoFundMe to help Axanar pay its rent, utilities and salaries.}}] 
  
 Lane insisted he set up the campaign without Peters' knowledge: Lane insisted he set up the campaign without Peters' knowledge:
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 Lane portrayed Axanar's struggle with CBS and Paramount as a "David and Goliath story.  The studios' strategy is to intimidate and make things too expensive for a fan to outlast the seige [sic]." Lane portrayed Axanar's struggle with CBS and Paramount as a "David and Goliath story.  The studios' strategy is to intimidate and make things too expensive for a fan to outlast the seige [sic]."
  
 +[{{ :jonathan-lane.jpg?nolink&300|**GOFUNDME** Fan Film Factor blogger **Jonathan Lane** was looking for $45,000 via GoFundMe to help Axanar pay its rent, utilities and salaries.}}]
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 +Oddly, Lane set up the GoFundMe page on October 29, yet on November 2 he posted this reply to a supporter's suggestion that he'd be willing to contribute $10-20 a month to help Axanar:
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 +> Hmmmm… Not a bad idea! Alec can’t really crowd-fund right now. Well, technically, he can do whatever he wants. But it would look a lot like he was poking the bear … especially if this case still goes to court. But I’m curious: <wrap hi>if a fan set up a “Save Axanar” campaign, would people contribute if it was simply raising money just to pay the rent</wrap> on the studio until the verdict comes down? Show of hands, people.((Jonathan Lane comment, [[http://fanfilmfactor.com/2016/10/29/alec-peters-attorney-fires-back-hard-at-cbsparamount-legal-team-in-axanar-lawsuit/#comment-1577|"Alec Peters' Attorney Fires Back Hard at CBS/Paramount Legal Team in Axanar Lawsuit"]], 11/2/16.))
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 +Of course by the time of that posting, his GoFundMe page had been up for four days.
 ===== Axanar's Financial Status ===== ===== Axanar's Financial Status =====
  
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 "There are right ways and wrong ways to go about using email solicitations," Bawden told **AxaMonitor**. "This wasn’t the right way to do it." "There are right ways and wrong ways to go about using email solicitations," Bawden told **AxaMonitor**. "This wasn’t the right way to do it."
  
-[{{ ::no-donation.jpg?nolink&300|**NO DONATIONS** had been received for the Axanar GofFundMe campaign in its first six days.}}]+<WRAP right round box 50%> 
 +//**__« [Axanar] is nearly out of money now. I wasn’t supposed to tell you that. »__**// — //Jonathan Lane, Fan Film Factor blogger// 
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 ===== Reactions ===== ===== Reactions =====
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 One commenter reacted to the deletions: "You can delete all the comments you want. More will replace the ones you axe."((James Vergon comment, [[https://www.gofundme.com/helpaxanar|We Stand With Axanar GoFundMe]], 11/3/16.)) One commenter reacted to the deletions: "You can delete all the comments you want. More will replace the ones you axe."((James Vergon comment, [[https://www.gofundme.com/helpaxanar|We Stand With Axanar GoFundMe]], 11/3/16.))
-[{{ ::dennis_bailey.jpg?nolink&300|**CALLING TO ACCOUNT** Dennis Bailey donated so his comment criticizing Lane's campaign to pay Axanar's expenses would be more difficult to delete.}}]+ 
 +[{{ ::dennis_bailey.jpg?nolink&300|**CALLING TO ACCOUNT** Dennis Bailey donated so it would be more difficult to delete his comment criticizing Lane's campaign to pay Axanar's expenses.}}]
  
 ==== Money Raised ==== ==== Money Raised ====
  
-In the first six days of Lane's effort, the campaign had received a single $5 donation, that one from Dennis Bailey, a former Star Trek writer who has been a vocal critic of Axanar. Ostensibly, as a donor, his comment (a quote calling to account [[wp>Joseph_McCarthy|Sen. Joseph McCarthy]]'s for his red-baiting campaign in the 1950s) would be more difficult to delete. {{:axamonitor-ico.gif?nolink|}}+In the first six days of Lane's effort, the campaign had received a single $5 donation — from Dennis Bailey, a former Star Trek writer and fan producer who has been a vocal critic of Axanar. Ostensibly, as a donor, his comment (a statement calling to account [[wp>Joseph_McCarthy|Sen. Joseph McCarthy]]'s for his red-baiting campaign in the 1950s) would be more difficult to delete. {{:axamonitor-ico.gif?nolink|}}
  
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 **Keywords** {{tag>commercial crowdfunding}} **Keywords** {{tag>commercial crowdfunding}}