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-====== Surrogate Starts Crowd Fund for Axanar Expenses ======+====== Crowd Fund for Axanar Expenses Abruptly Ended ======
  
-**//Fan Film Factor Blogger Admits Axanar is Out of Money, Needs $15,000 a Month//**+**//Peters Cancels Campaign After Blogger Admits Axanar is Out of Money, Sought $45,000//**
  
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-Blogger Jonathan Lane launched a $45,000 GoFundMe campaign on October 29, 2016, to pay three months' worth of rent, utilities and salaries at Axanar's studio. Titled "We Stand With Axanar," his pitch confirmed producer [[Alec Peters]]' statement in May that the project was [[axanar_finances|broke]]:+A GoFundMe campaign aiming to raise $45,000 to pay three months' worth of rent, utilities and salaries at Axanar's studio abruptly ended on November 3, 2016, just a few days after launch and following numerous complaints in its comments section and reports to GoFundMe itself. 
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 +===== Axanar's Broke? ===== 
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 +Titled "We Stand With Axanar," the project was launched October 29 by blogger Jonathan Lane, whose pitch confirmed producer [[Alec Peters]]' statements in May and again in November that the project was [[axanar_finances|broke]]: 
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 +[{{ ::rent-paid.jpg?nolink&350|**JUSTIFIED** Alec Peters told Kickstarter contributors he personally paid the rent on Axanar's donor-built studio, so he's using the empty space to play Warhammer 40K.}}]
  
 > Already, Alec has put more than $150,000 of his own money into "keeping the lights on," but he is nearly out of money now. I wasn't supposed to tell you that. (([[https://www.gofundme.com/helpaxanar|We Stand With Axanar, GoFundMe]], retrieved 11/3/16.)) > Already, Alec has put more than $150,000 of his own money into "keeping the lights on," but he is nearly out of money now. I wasn't supposed to tell you that. (([[https://www.gofundme.com/helpaxanar|We Stand With Axanar, GoFundMe]], retrieved 11/3/16.))
  
-===== Independent Fundraising Effort =====+On Kickstarter more than a week later, Peters revealed he had personally paid for months of the rent of Industry Studios, his commercial soundstage paid for with donor dollars, entitling him to use the space as he saw fit, including setting up a [[wp>Warhammer_40,000|Warhammer 40,000]] gaming venue.(([[https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/194429923/star-trek-axanar/comments?cursor=14935107#comment-14935106|Alec Peters post, Star Trek Axanar Kickstarter project comment section]], 11/9/16.))
  
-As a formally independent crowdfund, controlled by Lane, this new money could very well lie beyond the reach of any damages or monetary settlement stemming from the [[copyright infringement]] lawsuit Peters faces from [[CBS]] and [[Paramount Pictures]].+Lane posted in a comment on his blog that he took down the page at Peters' urging:  
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 +<WRAP right box 300px> 
 +**Inside the Studio** 
 +{{gallery> galleries:warhammer-venue?lightbox&reverse&crop&150x150&nocache}}<wrap lo>**WARHAMMER** Alec Peters hosted a Warhammer 40K tournament in the unused Industry Studios on October 15, 2016.</wrap> 
 +</WRAP> 
 + 
 +> Alec asked me to take down the GoFundMe site. It is now down. Not wanting him to be involved with it in any way until it was officially launched, I didn’t tell him I’d put it up online in the first place. When he found out about it, I got a call very quickly.((Jonathan Lane, comment, [[http://fanfilmfactor.com/2016/10/29/alec-peters-attorney-fires-back-hard-at-cbsparamount-legal-team-in-axanar-lawsuit/#comment-1676|"Alec Peters' Attorney Fires Back Hard at CBS/Paramount Legal Team in Axanar Lawsuit"]], 11/3/16.)) 
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 +===== Independent Fundraising Effort =====
  
-[{{ :jonathan-lane.jpg?nolink&300|**GOFUNDME** Fan Film Factor blogger **Jonathan Lane** is looking for $45,000 via GoFundMe to help Axanar pay its rent, utilities and salaries.}}]+As a formally independent crowdfund, controlled by Lane, this new money might very well have been beyond the reach of any damages or monetary settlement stemming from the [[copyright infringement]] lawsuit Peters faces from [[CBS]] and [[Paramount Pictures]].
  
 Lane insisted he set up the campaign without Peters' knowledge: Lane insisted he set up the campaign without Peters' knowledge:
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 Lane portrayed Axanar's struggle with CBS and Paramount as a "David and Goliath story.  The studios' strategy is to intimidate and make things too expensive for a fan to outlast the seige [sic]." Lane portrayed Axanar's struggle with CBS and Paramount as a "David and Goliath story.  The studios' strategy is to intimidate and make things too expensive for a fan to outlast the seige [sic]."
  
 +[{{ :jonathan-lane.jpg?nolink&300|**GOFUNDME** Fan Film Factor blogger **Jonathan Lane** was looking for $45,000 via GoFundMe to help Axanar pay its rent, utilities and salaries.}}]
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 +Oddly, Lane set up the GoFundMe page on October 29, yet on November 2 he posted this reply to a supporter's suggestion that he'd be willing to contribute $10-20 a month to help Axanar:
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 +> Hmmmm… Not a bad idea! Alec can’t really crowd-fund right now. Well, technically, he can do whatever he wants. But it would look a lot like he was poking the bear … especially if this case still goes to court. But I’m curious: <wrap hi>if a fan set up a “Save Axanar” campaign, would people contribute if it was simply raising money just to pay the rent</wrap> on the studio until the verdict comes down? Show of hands, people.((Jonathan Lane comment, [[http://fanfilmfactor.com/2016/10/29/alec-peters-attorney-fires-back-hard-at-cbsparamount-legal-team-in-axanar-lawsuit/#comment-1577|"Alec Peters' Attorney Fires Back Hard at CBS/Paramount Legal Team in Axanar Lawsuit"]], 11/2/16.))
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 +Of course by the time of that posting, his GoFundMe page had been up for four days.
 ===== Axanar's Financial Status ===== ===== Axanar's Financial Status =====
  
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 As of January 2016, when Axanar’s Indiegogo campaign was shuttered by the lawsuit, **AxaMonitor** [[ambition_vs._achievement#budget gap|estimated]] the production appeared to have $565,330 on hand (minus expenses between July 31 and December 31, 2016). At the time, the shortfall between money raised from both Kickstarter and Indiegogo and the production budget for Axanar stood at $745,566 — 66 percent of the film’s production budget. As of January 2016, when Axanar’s Indiegogo campaign was shuttered by the lawsuit, **AxaMonitor** [[ambition_vs._achievement#budget gap|estimated]] the production appeared to have $565,330 on hand (minus expenses between July 31 and December 31, 2016). At the time, the shortfall between money raised from both Kickstarter and Indiegogo and the production budget for Axanar stood at $745,566 — 66 percent of the film’s production budget.
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 +//**__It became apparent Lane began to delete negative comments from the GoFundMe page.__**//
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 === Burn Rate === === Burn Rate ===
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 Lane pegged Axanar's monthly expenses at $15,000.(([[https://www.gofundme.com/helpaxanar|We Stand With Axanar, GoFundMe]], retrieved 11/3/16.)) Lane pegged Axanar's monthly expenses at $15,000.(([[https://www.gofundme.com/helpaxanar|We Stand With Axanar, GoFundMe]], retrieved 11/3/16.))
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 ===== Appealing to Fans ===== ===== Appealing to Fans =====
  
-Lane's appeal to fans consisted of painting Axanar as a victim of studio intimidation on the precipice of financial ruin, followed by a standard tactic used in election campaign fundraising:+Lane's appeal to fans consisted of painting Axanar as a victim of studio intimidation on the brink of financial ruin, followed by a standard tactic used in election campaign fundraising:
  
 > But we're so close to the finish line!  If we can just keep the lights on for a few more months, this case can play out in court and we'll all know the conclusion … good or bad. HELP US REACH THE FINISH LINE!(([[https://www.gofundme.com/helpaxanar|We Stand With Axanar, GoFundMe]], retrieved 11/3/16.)) > But we're so close to the finish line!  If we can just keep the lights on for a few more months, this case can play out in court and we'll all know the conclusion … good or bad. HELP US REACH THE FINISH LINE!(([[https://www.gofundme.com/helpaxanar|We Stand With Axanar, GoFundMe]], retrieved 11/3/16.))
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 ==== Using Donor Mailing Lists ==== ==== Using Donor Mailing Lists ====
  
-The GoFundMe page didn't indicate how Lane planned to reach out to Axanar's 12, 000 donors other than through Twitter and Facebook share buttons, and via his blog, Fan Film Factor, which Peters touted to supporters as "the only legitimate news source on the Axanar lawsuit online."(([[https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/194429923/star-trek-axanar/posts/1699282|Alec Peters post, "CBS/Paramount vs. Axanar Lawsuit News"]], Star Trek Axanar project, Kickstarter, 10/4/16.))+The GoFundMe page didn't indicate how Lane had planned to reach out to Axanar's 12, 000 supporters other than through Twitter and Facebook share buttons, and via his blog, Fan Film Factor, which Peters touted to supporters as "the only legitimate news source on the Axanar lawsuit online."(([[https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/194429923/star-trek-axanar/posts/1699282|Alec Peters post, "CBS/Paramount vs. Axanar Lawsuit News"]], Star Trek Axanar project, Kickstarter, 10/4/16.))
  
-Since the GoFundMe effort is technically independent of Axanar, Lane should not have access to donor mailing lists gathered by Peters' first three crowdfunding campaigns on [[axanar_kickstarter_details|Kickstarter]] and [[axanar_indiegogo_details|Indiegogo]] — something that caused trouble before when Peters used the lists to [[propworx-email|spam donors]] to advertise a prop auction conducted by a separate company, Propworx, which he also owns.+Since the GoFundMe effort is technically independent of Axanar, Lane should not have had access to donor mailing lists gathered by Peters' first three crowdfunding campaigns on [[axanar_kickstarter_details|Kickstarter]] and [[axanar_indiegogo_details|Indiegogo]] — something that caused trouble before when Peters used the lists to [[propworx-email|spam donors]] to advertise a prop auction conducted by a separate company, Propworx, which he also owns.
  
 <wrap lo>//See also: [[propworx-email|Donors Complain Company Spammed Using Axanar List]]//</wrap> <wrap lo>//See also: [[propworx-email|Donors Complain Company Spammed Using Axanar List]]//</wrap>
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 "There are right ways and wrong ways to go about using email solicitations," Bawden told **AxaMonitor**. "This wasn’t the right way to do it." "There are right ways and wrong ways to go about using email solicitations," Bawden told **AxaMonitor**. "This wasn’t the right way to do it."
  
-[{{ ::no-donation.jpg?nolink&300|**NO DONATIONS** had been received for the Axanar GofFundMe campaign in its first six days.}}]+<WRAP right round box 50%> 
 +//**__« [Axanar] is nearly out of money now. I wasn’t supposed to tell you that. »__**// — //Jonathan Lane, Fan Film Factor blogger// 
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 ===== Reactions ===== ===== Reactions =====
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 ==== Deleting Negative Comments ==== ==== Deleting Negative Comments ====
  
-It became apparent Lane began to [[https://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-us/articles/203853440-How-do-I-delete-a-comment-|delete comments]] from the GoFundMe page on November 3. Roberson's comment quoted above has disappeared from the page, as have others, but they were swiftly replaced by other comments warning people not to contribute and questioning Axanar's spending of $1.4 million.+It became apparent Lane began to [[https://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-us/articles/203853440-How-do-I-delete-a-comment-|delete comments]] from the GoFundMe page on November 3. Roberson's comment quoted above had disappeared from the page, as have others, but they were swiftly replaced by other comments warning people not to contribute, and questioning Axanar's spending of $1.4 million. 
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 +One commenter reacted to the deletions: "You can delete all the comments you want. More will replace the ones you axe."((James Vergon comment, [[https://www.gofundme.com/helpaxanar|We Stand With Axanar GoFundMe]], 11/3/16.)) 
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 +[{{ ::dennis_bailey.jpg?nolink&300|**CALLING TO ACCOUNT** Dennis Bailey donated so it would be more difficult to delete his comment criticizing Lane's campaign to pay Axanar's expenses.}}] 
 ==== Money Raised ==== ==== Money Raised ====
  
-In the first six days of Lane's effort, the campaign had yet to receive a donation. {{:axamonitor-ico.gif?nolink|}}+In the first six days of Lane's effort, the campaign had received a single $5 donation — from Dennis Bailey, a former Star Trek writer and fan producer who has been a vocal critic of Axanar. Ostensibly, as a donor, his comment (a statement calling to account [[wp>Joseph_McCarthy|Sen. Joseph McCarthy]]'s for his red-baiting campaign in the 1950s) would be more difficult to delete. {{:axamonitor-ico.gif?nolink|}}
  
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